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Polisario and Moroccan Americans


By Otmane
 

Assalam,
 
Today I read an article at Al Jazeera regarding the meeting between our minister Ben Moussa and some members of Polisario here somewhere in the USA. Such important event should be announced ahead of time, in order that our community can plan ahead of time for a RALLY. This is very critical to show our support to our beloved country. And, relay that message that the western sahara is under the sovereignity of the kingdomof Morocco. it is very unfortunate that some of the Algerian Generals are backing up the Polisario proposal; despite the fact that Morocco was  a huge factor in fighting for the Algerian Independence, these Generals should be grateful for the Moroccan involvement.


Algeria, should be concerned with its own internal chaos and provide its people with peace and stability. their support for Polisario proves over and over again that Algeria's plan for the long run is to extend its boundaries all way to the Atlantic Ocean.


I truly believe that the Algerian nationals to urge the government of Algeria to stay away from this crisis and resolve in solving it the internal division of its people . We are Moroccan patriots and we need to stand behind our beloved country in regards to The Western Sahara issue. We should convey the world that the Sahara is ours and no one will take it from us. Bledy ya Bledy.
 
If it possible please provide the time and the specific location of this meeting. I do not have all the facts regarding this issue, so please feel free to expand on this subject. And hopefully, it is not late to organize a rally on local platform basis whenever this meeting takes place between Ben  Moussa and the so called
"Polisario"
 
Long live Morocco, Allah bless our beloved king and the Moroccan Patriots.

 

Allah m3akom.







 
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benzinas : First, I'd like to share my perspective on this issue before speaking about details of the 3 rounds of the Manhasset negotiations that already took place over the past 6 months:

I personally will never give up, or surrender the Sahara. Historically it is ours. Plus all Moroccans have paid more than that land can ever give us back.

My parents, my generation, and the few after it, have paid dearly for Sahra. My father was deployed there for 17 years. He has brushed up with death so many times, and was on the verge of losing his mind a few other times. Because of the Sahra, my family and I have missed out on valuable time to spend with my father. My mother was on her own raising all of us. She faced some very very tough times, as we did as kids, and my father would have made things a lot easier had he been there for us. I also know from very trusted sources that worked for the government that more than half of all taxes Moroccans paid went to finance the war, and subsidize food, oil...etc for the very sahrawi people that want to take that land from us.

I personally believe that if it wasn't for this issue, I would have been fine in my own country, not having to go through so much, and lose so much to be where I am today (Lhamdullah anyway...).

I have been closely following the talks. I am very optimistic this time that the issue will be resolved, although I don't agree with the autonomy. What's will happen after? Will the Rif ask for autonomy too? Allah Y7fad...

There have already been 3 rounds of talks in Manhasset NY, but nothing came out of them, as expected. A fourth one was scheduled for next April in the same location.


Well, for those of you who know a little bit about Algerian politics, their presidential elections are coming up pretty soon, and Bouteflika wants to modify the constitution to get re-elected another time (He's not re-electable under the current one), and he's politicized the Sahara issue, which is why there is no progress in the negotiations. Once the dust settles on the Algerian elections, I think the issue will be solved! It is inevitable, this is a conflict between Algeria and Morocco, the great poerws of this world want the conflict over, and Algeria will pull the plug sooner or later. The mortazi9a won't have any choice but to get in line for a Moroccan passport, or go somewhere else. I believe it's all just a matter of time.

Once this happens inchallah, Morocco will be the prosperous country it should have always been...

I'd love to hear other opinions, because I may be over my head on this. Thank you!
 
sara uk : I found this article regarding the Polisario to be very educating and beneficial for me.
I am born and raised in London and I find that I do not know enough history etc of my mother home.
I have heard of thr Polisario but never knew exactly what it was all about.
This article has educated me and re-freshed my mind in a lot of ways.
THANK YOU
Rabi Makoumk (beladi bladi)
 
nawfal72 : Salam,
The following link should help you find the information you're looking for:
www.map.ma/eng
 
nycginga : This is a very touchy subject that many moroccans should be concerned about.On the one hand, It inflicts injuries on our national pride; on the other; it throws a blow at the face of morocco for willing to sit down with a terrorist organization supported by the algerians generals who put their interest at the expense of those of the common man in algeria.

Morocco should have resolved the problem since the 1970s.we should have used the tension between the east and west and just settle the issue with the help of the us and western europe. the excuse we could have given was to stop the spread of communism. we could have been successful and rally the free world on our side. that chance slipped out of our hands because the people in charge at the time did not take advantage of the the good circumstances. it was a missed opportunity.
An other opportunity came on september 11. we could have gone inside algeria to fight that terrorist organization that calls itself polisario. we can link them with alqaeda or some other terrorist organisation in algeria. no one will care as long as it is done in a quick and efficient way. we missed that opportunity once again.
anyway i will stop here and say it is time for morocco to take a really tough approach to the issue. if war is inevitable so be it.
 
ahmed in la : I do not know if I m commenting on the right article or not, but the wise among you, will know:
BINATKOUM ABIDAOUA, BLEMMAS OULA BEJNAOUA.
 
chakssam  : Now let us from the talk, are we willing to do the least for our country, we need to start from somewhere, next meeting is scheduled on March 11th, a group trip need to be organized for this event to rally in front of Manhasset, NY. we're all busy, but one day is worthwhile...
 
jebli1965 : Inchaallah I am willing to drive from Boston.
 
issam900 : It is with great sorrow and deep regret to actually see a Moroccan-born Algerian President ( Born in Oujda ) and a Moroccan-educated man to take such stand against the very country that made him who he is today. Bouteflika is the epitome of the Algerian Government's betrayal to Morocco, whom the latter has been nothing but supportive of their cause, from its indepence,..all the way to their economy.

Morocco happens to be a very peaceful nation and its current government proves that it is the mirror image of who the Moroccans really are. I am truly sorry Mr. Bouteflika for a not so normal childhood, a not so decent relationship with your siblings, ( Perhaps you can start there ! ), a truly bad rap with respected nations and the infamous bite of the hands that fed you. But that's ok, we will not start a war with your country simply because we are not a war oriented nation. Instead of making war spending a number one priority ( 70 % of Algerian budget is spent in military arsenal and activities )
Result: 2nd largest Stock Market in Africa, largest investment size project in the continent, we -The Moroccan People-have chosen to boost our economy, get investors involved, be-rid of the un-human Shanty Towns, Providing for our people job creration and social services. Encouraging economic growth by developing key geographic areas as well as world-class industrial sectors. ( Sorry dude for losing the Renault deal ) I guess you guys weren't worthy of it...a growing population with educational and a core business perspectives to bearly cite the few...
Perhaps focusing on the good stuff Mr. Bouteflika will get you somewhere, rather than the negative competing. oh ! and by the way, we're not giving up the Moroccan Sahara

Long live Morocco

Issam Sadak
 
sara uk : thanks for your link nawfel72 it was very intresting
 
sarookh : Does anybody know what Barack Obama's position on the Moroccan Sahara?. There is a good chance that he may be
the next President.
 
zamharir323 : Dear Friends; regarding the Western Sahara, it is not as easy as you may think. The real solution is in the hands of The superpowers.(The U,S, Russia and yes France)as well as Spain. Therefore, if these countries agree on solving the problem, they would do it in blink of an eye. let not be naive! Unfortunately, they bargain among themselves first, before conceding to give away the opportunity to each other to benefit from the BIG transaction. Do you get it? So, the US wants to have a military base to control the North African part of the continen; Russia sold 1 billion $ worth of arms to Algeria recently) they want to keep a solid influence as well and let everybody know that it still has the power to stand up as equal to The US. France on the other hand can not just sit and watch its legitimate control of that region slip away and not do anything. It is just a mess, it is complicated! so much to say... Anyway, the solution is our responsibility. We have to fight for our rights by all possible means. How? that's the big question. The government should work on a long term plan to prepare the whole population to be aware and ready to sacrifice whatever... If nobody sacrifices nothing, then, we will be sitting around and hoping for the superpowers for help, it is simply an illusion!(a case in point : the palestinians) Let alone, The majority of algerian people are like us, tired of their generals, but only they, can change their destiny...They are our brothers and sisters, but their generals do not want them to even think that way, that's why, we will remain this way because of a bunch of dictators. Imagine the unity and union of the Maghreb will do. It will be certainly one of the powerful financial, economic and succesful blocs in the continent. Some are jalous and afraid. Even South Africa is siding with Algeria against Morocco.
 
jebli1965 : Today once again I read an article on Aljazeera that the meeting (between our government and the so called "polisario") will take place next Sunday in NY. This is a weekend meeting and we have no excuse for not being there and show our support. I am not trying to put the burden on anyone but I hope that our friends at Wafin will put together the time and place for us to meet.
-Otmane.
 
sidibe : Each time I see these kinds of arguments, I feel I want to throw up. The hate that my fellow Moroccans are exhibiting toward Sahrawis in general, and to those in the camps of Tindouf in particular, is inconceivable. For example over the last decade the hate toward Sahrawis has gotten so toxic that even the most loyal Moroccan Sahrawis have started to be fearful for their lives. I know for a fact that most of our brothers and sister in the camps of Tindouf welcome the idea of autonomy. After all, most of them want nothing out of this conflict but to unite with their families. However, when our failed and incompetent diplomacy is coupled with hate that translates into oppression and undermines Sahrawis, it leaves our little people of Sahara with very limited options. So, bombarding Sahrawis with insults and rhetoric hoping that the issue will resolve itself will not really cut it. What we need is to open a constructive dialog with our brothers and sisters and to have genuine willingness to seek a peaceful and legitimate resolution. Therefore, since none of you guys is willing to go that route, I would like to seize this opportunity to address my brothers and sister in Tindouf in an effort to start a bridge of hope and trust with their Moroccan counterpart.
Dear brothers and sister in the camps of Tindouf, Mohamed 6 has given us the right to rule ourselves by ourselves, this is a great opportunity for us to unite. I know that all of us (the Sahrawis) want to have a saying as to what kind of autonomy suites us; that is definitely something we can work out within the Moroccan democratic system once you are here. The world has changed and with all the problems that globalization has brought about, trust me, we are better of as Moroccans; but we will never be a complete people with you guys.
Love and Peace to all my Saharwis and Moroccans brothers and sisters..
 
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